Concern about Cern's LHC First Beam on 10 September 2008

[Steven Burnand]

Hi there is something very spooky about this date as when the number in date and year are added up they come to 11 and its the ninth month!

911 is within this date! Who chooses these dates?

Large organisations have stressed concern about creating artificial black holes within the earth. Why keep busting the planet and universe, to see how it works? The universe has balance and when something is busted it is recreated into something new.

Has Cern's got a universal tool to undo their universal damage?

Wave theory shows the hole universe and beyond to be connected and as one. How is the collective universe going to react to such abuse?

Over the past hundred years humans have become super proficient at destroying! Just imagine what kind of world we would have today if the same amount of time and money that is spent on war machines and destruction were spent on creating a better world for all?

Big Bang Day BBC4 Live

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/bigbang/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/bigbang/videos.shtml

http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Welcome.html

Steve

[T. St. Amant]

The black hole that could eat Manhattan or the machine that will let scientists read the Mind of God? I don’t know.

I did have a dream a few months back, wherein I discovered that I was being flown to Geneva and aboard the craft were non-humans. One was hostile. The other was disoriented. Both looked pretty human-like. No idea who the pilot was. We were all just waking up with the sun. However, I had been awake all night wondering where the heck I was. It wasn’t until the sun lit the landscape and I could see the mountains and knew that I was in an aircraft and not on solid ground.

All in all, the dream conveyed disquiet. I hold the question of the LHC in reserve of an opinion with a slight bend toward a thumbs down, but the adventure of something new does spark a twinkle inside. Perhaps this is one of those things we must do, although we wont like it. Perhaps it is something we fear because it opens up unknown territory.

Hmmm . . . “Just imagine what kind of world we would have today if” . . .let’s change the ending a little and add, “if we were so afraid of making mistakes that we never chanced discoveries.”


Kaku’s not afraid. . .


Cheers!

[Steven Burnand]

Hi, T. St. Amant. My concerns are based on dualism.

Looking at the universe as an inanimate object or machine that can be broken down into parts and understood from a parts perspective has led those that lead us and believe they know what is best (what's best for them that is) into creating a hell on earth.

IF the universe is alive and I believe that it is, smashing it into ever smaller pieces will hold little clues, as to how everything works together as a whole.

IF our body is attacked, from within, what is the bodies response? IF universes are condensed and inside other universes, who knows what damage such a man made and artificial destructive force will do?

Could this destroy whole universes that are to small for us ever to perceive? The new models in physics have fractal like qualities. Where are we in the universal fractal?

Have you seen the 'space critter' NASA footage and the objects moving around in space? They are like cells that are several miles across and there are also space worms that are several miles long. I do believe that space in teaming with life and we will need to start thinking about what space is in different ways. There are pictures and paintings of these cell like creatures in our atmosphere. Are they space anti bodies? The equivalent of our white blood cells?

The concept of holons is a constructive and creative idea. A new form of science needs to developed where there is respect for the greater whole and willingness to work with the greater whole and assists with its purpose and being. A science based on symbioses and relationships.

Respecting the earth as a part of greater living entity effects how our greater self is treated. Seeing the earth and its constituent parts as objects that have no connections or life force, the earth and its constituent parts can be justifiably abused, seeing the earth and its constituent parts as sentient parts of a sentient whole, justifications to destroy or abuse the earth and its constituent parts, are considerably more difficult. Lyall Watson 'The Romeo Error' is a good read on the definition of life.

The words 'as above so below' keep springing to mind! The fundamental part that most are missing in this statement is that, what is above is alive, so what is below is alive.

I guess its a matter of scale and at huge scales of distances and times, it would be hard to imagine how our earth and our universe could well be part of a greater living entity. My guess is, that it is and the universal god head theory makes more and more sense as science moves closer towards wave models of reality.

Maybe someday there will be global and universal moral values that go way beyond the ego centric universal self?

Maybe its a complete reversal? Perhaps a wave is the only reality and the particle is an illusion? Then a particle accelerator would be an illusion accelerator? :o)

My other concerns were about the dates and the numbers used in these dates. More often than now when a large event is planed there are major occult numbers in the dates and times.

I find your replies and the replies of others on this social network most informative and I reply to all with an attitude of gratitude.
Steve
PS: I need to get a copy of the Holographic universe and a couple of the others books mentioned by Zen, John and yourself. I also need to find my copy of Ghost in the Machine!
I have more books than a book shop! :o) Lots more reading to do!

[Dr.Namaste]

Hmm, BBC eh? I'm not too sure I trust your corporate link, lol.
QUOTE: The questions he has addressed include:
'Will the Collider be able to prove to scientists that many other dimensions exist as well as ours?'
'What are the possibilities of multiple Big Bangs creating multiple parallel universes?'

The discovery of the GOD particle. It will prove far more than just that, it will actually prove that YOU are GOD, that Time & Distance are irrelevant (end of "time" prophecy?), This is where science & the creative source become ONE. It will also prove beyond a shadow of truth that "The Secret" is also "The Truth". Science itself will have found the realities that Ancient & Modern Shamans have spoken of forever (as long as the results are disclosed to the public)
Most are sensing they (the dark cabal) will attempt to cover up the findings & steal (as usual) all of the glory for themselves, this attempt will be futile & to no avail as they themselves will be filled by the Light of the Rabbit Hole that has been traversed to bring us these bliss filled days within our true Paradise Home we call Earth... And that is not even the tip of the iceberg.

Rest assured, protection is with us & always has been, asking is not so hard;-)... Peace be with you.

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Dr.Namaste, I believe that our planet is a god particle and a particle inside of god.

It’s an odd belief and a controversial one, but my my research has taken me in this direction and towards this school of thought, so I am following it through with diligence.

I go along with the holographic and fractal like models of the universe. I believe they are the closest that science has come to date, in understanding how such a structure so incomprehensible in size can function as a whole. I do believe the torus model holds merit, but I am drawn towards a three dimensional model of the Tao symbol being an even closer example of a working model of the universe. This also fits with my beliefs on the Taoist text being much older than its given justice to by historians. I do believe the universe goes through Yin and Yang phases. Why not, if the system is fractal?

There are convergent and divergent phases in humanity and my guess is that this is the end of the divergent phase and its time once again to enter a golden age of convergence.

As the living system that I am in has fractal like qualities, I have no idea as to what part of the scale I am at. Could there be such a misconception as fractal-central-ness?

The church placed the earth at the centre of the universe, Freud and Jung, showed the same effect in the mind with the ego. Could the same be going on with some peoples misinterpretations of a fractal universe? IF everything is as one and is connected are there any exceptions to this rule? Are sub atomic particles too small to be considered a part?

Could the, as above so below, statement be taken to also mean, as in this generic layer, so in other generic layers? IF the present is built on the foundations of the past and the past according to latest physical models is super condensed down whilst maintaining its integrity for storage purposes, could a destructive experiment on this scale be destroying the very fabric of our past?

I am puzzled as to why many recite holistic models of the universe yet fail to live in faith as to their beliefs. I need to do the doing part myself and climb inside a new concepts and live it, in order to form relationships with it.

When I do so I try to live within a mind set that respects everything as being connected, with no exceptions and the whole system around me being alive in ways that I do not yet understand and may never fully understand due to the shear magnitude of what I live in and what I am apart of!

I know some will be sending around the men in white coats at this point to take me away! :o) These are my current beliefs and I sharing them and my world with you and others reading this thread now. The truth is alive and on the move so I understand that my beliefs may well change in the future, however I am acting on my present beliefs through a gut instinct.

Please explore the NASA space thread videos and space critter videos and look at some of those old paintings of things in the sky and you will see they both look like cell like creatures. There are others that look like worms.

My guess is what is called space is teaming with life.


Peace be with you.
Steve

[liz]

Yin and Comrades,

Video summaries will be posted here:

http://lhc-first-beam.web.cern.ch/lhc-first-beam/

Best Intentions,
Yang

BTW: Less than 24 hours to 9/11

[T. St. Amant]

I'm still here . . . are you still there?

Cheers!

[Steven Burnand]

I am also OK! But the big bang never happened! :o) Fred Hoyle pun there somewhere! :o) The collision experiment is due over the next weeks. Maybe we will all end up in Pepper Land as it is through a sea of holes?

[T. St. Amant]

Gawd! The anticipation is wracking my nerves . . . . am I going to be here 'tomorrow' or WHAT!

Kidding, but I am a bit anxious to know. Keep us posted, Steve.

I wonder if Princton's REGs are picking up our anticipation?

Cheers!

[Steven Burnand]

You are right there will be an anxious observer effect!

Stephen Hawkins has put up a thousand pound bet against finding the Higgs boson particle! Higgs will be disappointed in loosing his Bosons!

[liz]

Well, it seems we at least made it to 9/11/08....

Cheers!

[Steven Burnand]

hI Lizbeth, yes, although I was listening to David Wilcock's 9 September report on the new Project Avalon and found that a bit disturbing! Its all the things that he did not elaborate on I found most interesting.

Halloween is the next big pagan event.