What are your thoughts on the 2012 enigma?

[Steven Burnand]

We are coming up to a unique planetary alignment in 2012 when our sun will arrive at it's solar centre.

There are many videos on YouTube about this subject and about the many social and political events now taking place, including evidence of an emerging new world order. What are you thoughts on these enigmatic developments?

For a broader perspective on 2012 and the new world order please go to -

http://2012armageddonnwo.ning.com/

This site offers a vast video library and much more on this subject matter.

Sending best wishes to all…Steve

[liz]

judy, judy, judy...

how's your water business coming along???? the repilians are thirsty yet at the same time opposed to plastic...as well as CFL's made in China.

how many myspace's does one need to earn a living? "top master of the game?" "katrina rebirth"? yet you psycho babble about Lynne McTaggart selling books?

http://www.myspace.com/topmasterofthegame

http://www.myspace.com/katrina_rebirth

[Maribel]

Hello all,

Isn't this site for making intentions, to say intentions even to intend intentions?????? I'm sad to say it doesn't seem like it anymore!

Love, peace and joy to all
Maribel

[Lynn Marlowe]

Thanks for putting us back on track.

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Maribel, Intentions are only part of the process.

The first stage is to discuss 'what' the intentions are going to be used for, 'where' they are most effective and 'when' to use them, 'how' to use them etc. Much of the conversation above was on that.

My take on what Judy was implying was to use intentions to change the water supplies. As it has been proven, water does respond to intention.

I have been researching remote viewing and objects that are transient (like vegetation)do not appear to the viewers. This may well hold some vital clues and point to why the labels on the bottle (a more permanent object than the water contained within) worked so well.

An intention experiment of this kind then would be more effective if the intentions were aimed at the storage tanks in the water plants. A series of intentions of imaginary labels on the tanks, may work very well?

This could also be reinforced by using the same labels on glass bottled water? The secret behind intention appears to be focus and timing.

Its been proven by the heart maths group and others that focusing attention creates a natural coherence, so maybe we are looking at the same effect and calling it by another name?

If it were possible to get pictures of the targeted water facilities tanks, this may well increase the efficiency. The labels need to be imagined in the same positions and font keeping the focus as tight as possible.

The motivation of the group to work together and manifest the many good ideas of intentions suggested is poor and the group appears to wait for Lynne to make the first move. Unfortunately Lynne has either lost interest or has become to busy to get personally involved in the forum and post the knowledge that she has acquired through her research.

Instead the research knowledge is being sold to group and those that have been interested since the sites conception, in small PDF files at prices way above the cost of hard back books.

Sadly Lynnes lack of input to the forum and the lack of free information, even for those that have put many hours into studying the subject has made me suspicious and start to believe this was more of a business adventure than first let on?

I am not in a position to spend £100's of pounds on PDF files so my access to the recent research and finding is limited to my own research.

The situation within the group at present reminds me of when the teacher left the room at school, in that the group no longer functioned like a group and people that knew each other would talk about their own personal agendas.

I have waffled on about guidance systems many times throughout this thread and I can not stress the importance more, regarding self guidance.

IF Lynne is too busy to lead the group or come into the classroom and impart her knowledge, the group needs to device their own way of focussing and working together as intention appears to work better with 'many people focussed on precisely the same thing.

Everything worth while appears to require some effort and its way too hedonistic to sit back and believe that intention alone will solve the worlds problems, however like a letter in an alphabet it helps and contributes to the ordination of the whole if used effectively.

Best intentions to you and all ....Steve

[bwmf]

Hello everyone,

Peace, love, light, hope, joy, happiness, unity, laughter, sharing, caring.... intentions for all.

I am happy to have discovered the intention experiment where I have found true caring people with no materialistic interest other than to help each other and share knowledge. For that I have to thank you all and above all Lynne.

This is a long and interesting thread although it is sometimes a bit freaky in the sense that it
conveys some negative vibes.... I know nothing about the future although it is clear that the change has already started... a change that I truly believe will be for the better, for the good, for love, for all and ONE.

Peace, love, light, hope, joy, happiness, unity, laughter, sharing, caring intentions for all once more.

It's a beautiful day today and I am going to kiss one of my daughters that has just walked in : )

Thank you for sharing

Bárbara

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Bárbara, there are many caring souls on the intention experiment with their heart in the right place trying to make sense of the crazy times we live in.

Yes, life can be a bit freaky when straying from the perceived normality of group think.

Even the idea of Intention would have been labelled that way a few years back.

The future is what 'we the people' make it!

Yes!!! I agree it is VERY important to not let life get you down and keep those positive vibes flowing and its equally important to look at and face that what we fear the most.

Celibate and live for the day!

Best intentions ....Steve

[Judy Lapointe]

Steve it's the process. It's the insanity that we are experiencing. Both sides of negative appear to want something, both sides appear to want good things so who is wrong and who is right?

Right now in this negative conversation there is a great deal of information lacking. Each side of negative holds important information, they know what they know without doubt. Both sides of negative FEEL they know the complete answer and they assume the other side has no intentions of seeing things from a different point of view. Both sides of negative think the other is insane to be doing what they are doing, so which side is right and which side is wrong. How do you stop negative energy experienced? How can you tell which side of negative is right? The concepts of holodynamics is correct and successful because it uses information to solve all problems. Every problem known to man can be solved with enough information. All problems are nothing more then a lack of information, making this negative experience be nothing more then a lack of information being shared.

From my perspective I can see that, know that but if the other side can't recognize that's all that's going on, then the conversation can't be had. I can only take evil so long, I call negative energy evil - pet name so it's clearly defined and something to stay away from or try to figure out what it wants and give it what it wants.

I can only use this evil as an example as to how I see what we are doing to each other and how it's effecting us Globally. What we see happening in this room is happening in our families, in our communities, in our schools, in our governments. We wake up each morning and experience negative energy all around us.

I'm setting up a group to share what I know if you're interested. I'd much prefer to keep focused on solutions rather then the very slow process of dealing with evil.

with love Judy

[Judy Lapointe]

Hi Barbara and thank you for the good intentions.

The negative vibes are nature, many things are wrong in the world and we each respond to the wrongs we see in our own way. Some of use know that sending love out is the answer, huge thing to be doing. Others are raped up in their rage, their own personal fight or flight instincts that are fighting to find solutions. We all have great intentions, we are all searching and forming groups expecting the great leaders will guide us. What we have to recognize is "it's not important to look for what our leaders can do for us, but what we can do for our leaders". Because my fight/flght involves abuse I am very sensitive to this negative vibe and I usually leave. I know without a doubt if I play with the negative energy I hold the potential to feed it. If I feed it, I experience it just as the other side of the negative energy. Some how I feel the need to be apart of a group looking for answers and willing to follow through on solutions if a solutions happens to show up.

I am deeply sorry if you have to experience me learning how not to feed into this negative energy. I'm aware of it, but I'm also aware sometimes going into it, is the way it's solved. Fire burns out fire. If I can maintain the same level of fire through out at me, I should be able to put it out. I could use all the love and peace energy so please give me all you've got.

If I'm giving everything I know away for free, why would I be here? I could be writing a book and charging a fortune and I could find an investor willing to make a few million a year. The wellness business just happens to be in crisis, it's basically the best business to get into these day's yet I"m giving it away free. I'm here searching just like everyone else. I"m searching for others who are wishing to create a world filled with peace and love. We are at A and we need to get to B in order to experience it. We can't just recognize A & B and do nothing. We need to recognize there is a process to get from A to B, and walk into that process.

With love
Judy

[Loraine Connon]

Hi Steve

I do not agree with what you say about remote viewing -

"objects that are transient (like vegetation) do not appear to the viewers."

In my experience all objects (events, concepts etc) are equally viewable, and I have never encountered any particular types of information 'not appearing'. Ultimately all material targets are transient and how long any object exists for is irrelevant to the act of remote viewing which occurs beyond time. I was once set a research target to view the singular event of 'striking a match'. The momentary existence of that tiny flame and the little slither of wood (vegetation) 'appeared' just as clearly and easily as viewing any longer lasting object. Plants, flowers and trees occur appropriately in sessions I have done and seen from other viewers. Even viewing the ultra transient happenings at subatomic levels is perfectly possible Most times when viewers claim some aspect of viewing is difficult or impossible it is their target setting which is logically flawed or they have simply reached the limits of their own beliefs.

I realise your comment on remote viewing was almost in passing and not substantive to the thread here in which I really appreciate hearing your sound thinking on this most moot topic, but I see remote viewing as unlimited and more than it seems (ie. the next evolutionary step in the developement of human language) rather than limited and less than we might hope, and there is much misinformation to dispell.

With best intent
Loraine

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Loraine, my comments on remote viewing were based on Ed Dames comments in the video below. I only started my study into this fascinating subject a few months back.

We spoke about RV at the time and Tony joined in as he was also 'very' interested in remote viewing.

I lucid dream regularly and I am an empath. Over recent moths I have been able to prove that I am an empath on a state of the art, biofeedback machine that I purchased from Dan Winter last year. I sync with others in both heart and brainwaves! Dan said it was very unusual to find this level of empathy in men.

My personal life is slowly getting less cluttered and I am starting to get more time to spend on myself. Remote viewing is one subject that I wish to explore. I have just ordered Ed Dames DVD set, so I will have the kit soon.

I am going to buy Bill Harris's (centre point) 'stage two' in holosync, that is supposed to take you to higher states of conciousness like the voyage series in hemi sync. Its expensive but not so expensive as hemi sync. Why is everything so pricey? The high prices severely limits the number of people that can benefit from all of these wonderful discoveries.

Having a biofeedback machine that reads and records both heart and brain waves and measures coherence is very useful when doing this kind of research. I can also record and print the results.

My feeling are what is present in current technology, with regards to communication is also available through our bio chemical/electrical system within our bodies. The laws are fractal.

I would guess that there are a LOT more human abilities, yet to be discovered. Perhaps, one day it will be like the last scene of the film 'The last Mimzy?

I am looking forward to starting the RV course and would appreciate some pointers.

If you have a moment can watch Ed's video and give me some feedback?

Best intentions to you and all

Steve PS: Sorry to all for being a bit grumpy over the last few replies, like many i wished that there would be much more working together within these groups towards common goals and providing each other with much more feedback on the ways and working of intention.

The odd thing is that people seem to be more willing and able to speak about and provide feedback on 2012 than Intention? I very much appreciate the time and effort that many have put into 2012 thread over the past two years.

[Judy Lapointe]

Steve my friend I feel your pain.

2012 is all about being discouraged, feeling the pain enough to want solutions. Light black holes we need to experience the supper nova effect and sadly we need to experience the fight that creates that massive shift.

I believe we can make it pass this test. You have a strong mind and will to survive. To remain calm and focused, to be able to follow what guides you is a struggle because it's a process of letting go of what you believe in, it's hard.

Trust in yourself and your abilities. You've attracted a very long thread because you continue to make sense. You're inside one bubble and your so close to coming out you have no idea. You have all the peace of the puzzle you just don't know how to put it all together yet.

If I am causing you to much pain, I will be happy to leave this threat again. Just say the word.

with love Judy

[liz]

yin,

inasmuch as your pain is your experience, i can't feel your pain...lol..i do however share your universal consciousness..


black holes = cul de sac (David Icke distractions perhaps?)

yang