Has anybody given any thought about 2012 apocalypse?

[Steven Burnand]

We are coming up to a unique planetary alignment in 2012 and our sun will also be in its solar centre. There are many videos on YouTube about this subject matter and planet x! There are also social and political changes taking place and rumour of a New World Order fascist state. Is there substance in these rumours?

Many paint a very bleak picture, with little hope and some are taking positive action on a social side. Please look for your self, to confirm what's mentioned above and reply below.

Zeitgeist: Addendum

Could 'one' of the universal laws called 'Intention' be used to change such large scale events?
Are there any people already contemplating or working on such a projects?

Are there any people working on alternative social systems and systems of exchange and barter?

If so please leave some feedback on this thread so others can link up.

This all sounds a bit odd, however if a modicum of what is being reported on Youtube and elsewhere comes true we are in for some very difficult times ahead and we only have 4 years left to formulate a solution!

Feedback and creative ideas from non academics and academics is valued!

For a broader perspective on 2012 and the New World Order that is beyond the scope of this thread please go to -

http://2012armageddonnwo.ning.com/

This site offers a vast video library and much more on this subject matter.

Sending best wishes to all…Steve

[serrahphynn]

Namaste

I'm agreed with the fact that people can tell the future. But it's possible that someone 5000 year ago may have seen strange beasts on earth and take fear. It's possible that this beasts may be only robots build in the next years and is not so dangerous at all. There is 5000 years ago they could have not understand anything about robots. And may be with our evolution level we still don't understand what will happend in 2012. May be the problem will be lots of death, but this may be the solution to make our race surviving and evolving in an another step.
As long as our fear talking we can't understand the real truth of this gate.
I still believe that it's not so dramatic. just another step, just another level to reach.

And as long as we have fear we will feed the humanity fear.

By the way what will we do if we really understand what will really happend ?
I still got difficulties to do the right thing when my body or intuition tell me to do something. So i 'm not sure that knowing about 2012 will change something in me. I need to find my true self to act right at the right time. And i believe that the right thing to do will be coming from inside.

may the One blessing you

[JohnM]

Hello serrahphynn, it is interesting to me that someone from a place as far from here (Midwest USA) as Reunion Island would have the same thoughts. It does show that the worldwide connections are strong and relevant to world needs. I do think that very significant change is fast approaching and it will occur (and is occurring) over time in an accelerating fashion. 2012 for me is not a significant year. Much will happen before and after. The negative energy is helped by many who believe without thinking and contemplating. It is true that political, social, and environmental threats are present among us but, doing the right thing by prompts from the inside can and will use those threats to create beneficial paths. I think we are entering a new age of enlightenment and it is now time to search and find the evidence of that. Positive energy is everywhere. JohnM

[Robin Barto]

I have studied the 2012 material in depth. My conclusion is that the world will change by leveling up in Vibration (All form vibrates at a specific frequency, reference Quantum Mechanics). We as human beings will also level up in order to survive. Humanity is at a fork in the proverbial road...Much is happening to move us closer to the light and away from the Darkness. While this is occurring the Darkness is trying to hold on tight to its reality. We create reality individually and also collectively. So....I encourage everyone to do what we can to create positive intentions in our individual lives and also around the globe. I feel there is much hope for a positive future. It is my belief that the Mayans ended their calendar in 2012 because time will need to be measured in a different way due to an overall change in frequency. Much has been written on this. Reference Gregg Braden, Hose Arguelles, Lynn McTaggart (working on the intention aspect you inquire about), Rupert Sheldrake, and there are many others. I know that much has been written on the Dark side of this issue also....but...as Christ teaches "So shall you sew, So shall you reap" Given this universal principal I encourage everyone to focus on the positive because when we reach a Critical Mass (Rupert Sheldrake) we can change reality.

[Judy Lapointe]

Sorry for the double posting, I wanted to make a new posting but still reach the threat that I’ve been following since I’ve joined The Intention Experiment.

I was introduced to The Intention Experiment while searching for Pavel, a man who was originally involved with the marketing of the film “What the Bleep Do We Know”. Pavel had a challenging position as the film had an un-defined market yet achieved high success because of the groundwork done by Pavel (in my opinion). Pavel is now working for The Intention Experiment, which lead me to discover of the work being done here on this website.

Since arriving my project has increased in speed as to its development. One kind site member hooked me onto Fluoride in water, which lead to some research and I now have a partnership in the works with a company who can provide me with not only the meta physical knowledge in ionized water but they can provide the water source to me as well.

I’m working with a company out of China to manufacture my bottles at competitive pricing. Bottled Intentions will have three water bottle products, the large gallon sizes in glass and 500ml bottles in both plastic and glass. The main objective will be to design this business so it will one day be obsolete and we will only focus on supplying quality water across the globe. We require plastic in our first stages as this will make the product affordable for all, nobody can be left behind in this project. Eventually once we achieve dominance in the bottled water industry we will eliminate all plastic bottles and the glass bottles will be encouraged to be re-used and filled each day from the gallon size bottles.

I truly believe this entire project was created by each member on this Intention Experiment site. I only joined a few months ago, yet your spirit and focused intention greatly provided me with the experiences to manifest this creation. I strongly believe everything you’ve put out into the world is coming back at you larger then you could imagine. Think of the connections each of you shared if only through thought and intentions. We are joined by a focused group despite we could be across the planet from each other. Now that this day has finally arrived I have this urge to put this out there and see how each of you want to cling to your own creation.

Next week on Friday 13th I am booked to be taping my business proposal of Bottled Intentions on the Canadian version of “The Dragon’s Den”. I will be asking for $1 Million but leaving the door open to raise $2 million. For those of you who are not familiar with Bottled Intentions, I’ve basically bottled every technique needed to experience any dream imaginable. I plan to display in my presentation how each Dragon has used this concept to achieve all their successes. Each one of them had an addiction to financial profits. Their focus has and will always be filled with thoughts or feelings of prosperity and no focus on a lack of finances will ever be experienced. If one makes a daily intention to experience Prosperity, especially when faced with an eviction notice or a bill you can’t afford, then they open or develop more right brain thinking which then opens up the brains ability to notice or focus on possibilities verses clear and obvious limitations. Each Dragon, or person experiencing success also FEEL’S the confidence in the direction or vision they see that others may not see. It takes great confidence to start a conversation on topics completely new to our world, yet only through something new can the potential for new possibilities be found. Each Dragon or person achieving success has a strong visualization of the connections or alignments in their lives that can pull a dream together, while those who experience challenges appear to have a focus on all connections that keep repeating the challenging experience over and over. Each Dragon as well every one of us on this planet creates and attracts into our lives the level of Love and Happiness we are consciously aware of having. For most we haven’t experienced Love and Happiness at it’s highest state, but we are developing that experience placing the Well-Being industry one of the top area’s to invest in the future. Sadly a great number of us have been in Love with the attention we attract in the challenging experiences we have, yet those like Dragon’s experience a level of Love and Happiness that comes from leading a successful life. They are addicted to it and will do anything to achieve this experience just as strongly as those of use who thrive on negative attention for love. Dragon’s know instinctively how to experience Accepting and Allowing. Only a second of time can be spent on a negative experience and Dragon’s are masters in shifting that thought direction in a more productive direction. Nothing is created while experiencing the outcomes of what appears to be negative and if one can master the ability to control the level of time focused on the observation of the negative, this increases the speed at which a positive outcome can be created. Most importantly to maintain one’s ability to experience success we all must have the experience of Gratitude & Humanity, we can never develop into our highest capabilities if we don’t understand the strong connections we have with each other and doing harm to another is equal to doing harm to yourself. We must be grateful at all times and carry a strong sense of Humanity because humanity starts with self.

The concept behind Bottled Intentions is to provide a daily reminder for each of us to use our right brain thinking, our third eye to visualize the kind of world we want to experience and do so while up against the daily challenges we face each day. Every being on this planet requires water and water is the best conductor for thoughts and intentions. I’d really love it if any one of you want to be involved in the exciting events I’m experiencing with this amazing project. The most rewarding outcome I’m expecting is the ability to provide this concept FREE to every child under the age of 18 globally. An Olympic gold medallist increases their potential if they stop for 10 minutes and visualize their routine perfectly in their minds. Imagine what our world will look like if every child on this planet is raised with the practising tool that guides them to visualize an amazing new world?

I am open to any involvement anyone would be interested in having within this site. Because this is television we can somewhat control the outcome of this presentation. If anyone would like to write into the Dragon’s Den show through the producer I’m working with, that could display how intentions can connect us all. There are hundreds of you and judging by the number of postings I receive, members are very active in participating in world good. It would be cool to have a few hundred supportive emails sent to this show, it would be more amazing if they received a few thousand. This experience can be what ever we want to make it out to be. The possibility in creating such an overwhelming display, we can have a feature on the Oprah show which will increase the volumes of people who would join in on the Intention Experiment. The possibilities are endless.

I am also working towards attracting $2000 within the next week. I don’t see a problem in attracting these funds as I’m totally blown away with the connections that have been entering my life in the past 3 weeks. Still I’d like to put the offer out there to anyone wishing to own a small share in Bottled Intentions.

So again, please if anyone has any suggestions or has any wish want or desire to be involved in this project I’d love to hear from you. It’s time to dream.

Love to each and every one of you.

Judy Lapointe

[Eugene Nash]

Don't worry. There is no such thing as Planet X.

If somthing this large was moving in and out of the solar system at such a regular rate, then it would be well within detectable range of telescopes.

check this link http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/index.html

[Judy Lapointe]

there may or may not be a Planet X, but things are about to change. There are no more governments looking after the best interest of the people, only business controllers manipulating everything so big business can profit.

As consumers we demand to have everything at the lowest cost available, yet that lowest price available drives our ability to purchase because we don't get paid enough to afford things such as cars or gas. Only the big boys get the money while workers get next to nothing for the demand products they slave over.

If we refuse to purchase oil simply because the price is to high and it's justified with only the increase wages of management, those who work with oil related business's would then be out of work, unable to feed their families. If 90% of the population works in an oil related industry, we are kind of tide to the insane disfunctional economic system WE CREATED.

While we all can't afford to purchase these huge beautiful homes or pay for the high cost of heating or cooling, we have this insane business management called Government who will spit out a false paycheck source by creating 20 year morgages, only to need 40 year morgages and within the next 25 years we will need an 80 year morgage. Now because there really isn't money there, we are just making it all up using emaginary money we are creating a REALITY debt for the children we are raising now.

The children that we are raising are born into a world where adults teach them how to complain, lord knows we have plenty to complain about. We teach them how not to be accountable or responsible by our own actions of not being responsible for how things get done as long as they just get done. Then we add in a well accept level of abuse to raise our children as devorce is a well accepted practise and in most cases kids only learn how to be disrespectful as each parent puts down the other. Which parent will a child respect, which one is telling the truth, the parent who is bringing in Un-Happiness because of needed disapline or the parent who is bribing, controlling and actively manipulating kids to not follow rules?

If you don't want to fear Planet X, consider this new generation to be as destructive as what can be felt by fear described by Planet X. I've witnessed first hand how these minds work and evolve. When you can't provide a life in which to exist through the laws and rules we set out, then we tend to get it done anyway with an attitude "Fuck you, I'll do it myself". From my perspective, everything you purchase double that cost has to be invested into keeping this new purchase safe. How logical is that when that doubled price tag of safety can be put towards giving towards another and you remove the logic of needing safety.

We write a big paycheck for none existing money as long as it pays for war because war is profitable yet we can't seem to write that same none existing money when a child is hungry or needs a home to live in. We haven't set up a sustainable economic base that functions in a manor that we CAN profit by funding positive actions. If we can profit from war, why is it we can't profit from giving blessings to all? In the quantum world we live in, anything is possible but one first has to have the desire. If only we had a desire to live well for all, nobody is left behind because that reality is just as possible as creating a reality where we profit from oil.

We need the vision. Anything negative historically has resulted in a massive shift. If we lived in a perfect world we would have no need to create. It's only because of the things we hate that motivates us to create something new and better to experience. Fearing a Planet X can provide a vision to make the shift we need.

As the Myan Calender suggests, we are becoming more conciously aware of our existance in this reality. Everything really is an illusion that we AS ONE create based on our own thoughts. The closer we develop and understand our capabilities and we join as one to create a completely different illusion, we create a completely New World that we dream about. Those are dreams felt by a majority of the people living on this planet. Increasing numbers are simply not happy with the life they lead. Because our minds are perfect hologram creators, it's inevitable that we will create a New World in time.

The number of people who have developed a stronger reality or stronger understanding of their capabilities, are very excited to hear of any fear being discussed globally as this is the first stage of evolution. It's amazing the escalation of fear being created, Planet X, Gobal Warming, Failed Governments, War, Human Rights Being Taken Away, we have plenty of fear happening which no doubt will generate a completely new world.

As I've posted, This Intention Experiment has produced exactly what you set out to accomplish yet the vision still isn't clear enough to notice when it has arrived. We are all one and we are all beings who require water. Water is what connects us as one. Water is the perfect conductor for all elements, which also must include thought as thought is what combines the elements together. The Intention Experiment has proven the effects Intentions have over water and I've personally used the concept I've described to pull myself and my children out of a dis-functional, emotionally abusive reality. I used my drinking water to quit smoking and once I could see my insane thoughts of abuse were only creating more experiences of the abuse I started using my drinking water to help me focus on thoughts that better served me. Once I witnessed the amazing changes that came from this concept, my 17 year old daughter started using it and we've witnessed her living a more productive, aware life that is serving her better over the disrespectful direction she was headed.

It appears like I am the only one holding this possibility. I am new to this website while so many members have been living this concept for several years, yet they are prevented from seeing the same vision as I do. It's a horrible feeling to being alone, things tend to FLOW magically with higher numbers being involved. But at the same time, the first to see a vision is often alone while patience is required to keep explaining the vision until slowly others see the same.

The possibilities are mind blowing and it's frustrating to watch a perfect opportunity pass by simply because we can't understand the attractions we've worked hard to create. That is what I'm hoping to improve with the project I'm working on. $10 million was profited by the film "What the Bleep Do We Know" and $300 million is estimated profits for the film "The Secret". Clearly, we have a global interest in learning how to attract the experiences we desire but what good is learning all that if you can't recognize what you've attracted? We can only understand what we can relate to, often we dream of experiences that we've never experienced before yet it's paramount to FEEL that experience first to have that attracted and experienced fully. A poor man wishing to be rich only creates a life time of being "A poor man with a wish". Only a poor man with an imaginary vision that feels so real to him he is living the experience before it arrives so once it does he recognizes and takes advance of the attraction he created. Currently I am living that experience. I've been a poor mother of 4 with a wish to improve my financial experience. I've been drinking bottled water holding the intentions I wish to experience with the goal to experience the FEELINGS of the intentions I've set in each bottle. I've been FEELING Prosperity & Abundance for the past 11 months as well Alignment & Harmony, Love & Happiness, Confidence & Certainty, Gratitude & Humanity, Accepting & Allowing. I'm able to recognize all the potential that has been attracted through my intentions I've experienced. One the same day I was asked to present my concept to "The Dragon's Den" show, which I only sent in a very brief email to them months ago and did not have to sell them on anything, I was also informed that my car would be reposed. Historically loosing my car would have devistated me but all I could see was opportunity. Loosing my car freed me of a $10,000 debt that will be obsorbed by the car dealership. I was perfectly able to make payments, no debt needed to be obsorbed as I was perfectly willing to fullfill my agreements, so why did this happen? The cost of this car was $330 per month along with $230 insurance payments and $50 minimum gas expense. The experience of loosing my car offered me over $600 to put towards a business proposal that can be used to get things rolling as I envision them. Being on this Dragon's Den Show has benifited me greatly without even being on the show as it has driven my goals to be accomplished in teh speed equal to my vision. Investment dollars will never be an obstacle in this experience again, because I know hold the solution to that problem. The Alignments I'm able to recognize are mind blowing. I've made strong connections with manufacturers, water suppliers and film industry connections. This website is by far the strongest alignment that could blow this thing ski high yet that opportunity is not yet recognized by this group. Just with a combined intention and a will to send in a short email, this group could create a possibility to be featured on the Oprah show. This is TV, everything is monitored by numbered interest. There is no need to have anyone send in an email, I stand pretty firm in the vision I have and I am not tied to any outcome. This thing has a life of it's own and the more I just flow with the process the better the potential is created. However, that being said I only present an opportunity for the numbers of Intention Holders to be counted in a very public manor. Emagine 200 or 2000 emails being sent in to be counted from a group who is trying to prove intentions DO CREATE CHANGE, the product or concept I'm presenting is called BOTTLED INTENTIONS. I think the opportunity is amazing yet it appears like I will have to watch that opportunity not be taken advantage of as it has nothing to do with me. I've been drinking Accepting & Allowing for the past 11 months and I fully understand that everything has a flow and the timing is not correct or the involvement of this group. Something needs to happen first, a missing step needs to be realized. Maybe this concept simply needs to be developed so one has the tools to develop the skills needed to recognize all potentials of the attractions we create.

Love and Peace to you all

Judy

[Eugene Nash]

"We are coming up to a unique planetary alignment in 2012 and our sun will also be in its solar centre."

All planetary alignments are unique

The sun is always in its solar centre.

What's the problem?

[Steven Burnand]

Energy not only has mass it has a direction in space and these directions in space form patterns. Patterns have different affects and different meanings, such as the words and letters on this page. In Edward De Bono’s book The Mechanisms of the Mind he describes the mind workings, as a Pattern Making Pattern using System.

I would take this several steps further and say that the universe is a pattern making and pattern using system. Such as the words on this page have different meanings, the different universal patterns also have different meanings and effects.

A communality of the patterns is based on energy efficiency and the most efficient shape appears to be a sphere. A two dimensional representation of a sphere is a circle and way back in the days when people where more in tune with their natural environment due to no artificial lighting or heating, they noticed that the universal patterns where of a cyclic nature and the cycles also had repetitive patterns.

I became interested in this subject as I have an enquiring mind and I am fascinated by what I have personally discovered in my research, if you wish to choose the ‘so what’ approach, that’s your choice and I respect that, however as the universal pattern that is approaching only occurs every 26,000 years I would suggest you do a bit more research before dismissing it.

Here is one link of many to be going on with that has some information http://www.aztlan.net/rumblings_center_galaxy.htm

Perhaps you could do the unthinkable and ask more questions after your research! :o) But please do take on some of the responsibility yourself as you are also part of the overall process!

To DIS is to MISS! :o) so is such a monumental event worth dis-missing?

Best intentions to you and all…..Steve

[Eugene Nash]

I have researched it. Which is why I'm saying that there isn't a problem. 2012 will come and go into 2013.

The predictions for 2012 are basically, "something may or may not happen". I can make that prediction for you and everyone else about tomorrow, or any other day you care to name.

One prediction I can make, is that Venus will transit the sun again in June 2012. The next time it will do this in 2117, then 2125. The last transit in 2004 went off without anything bad happening, so I 'm not really worried about the 2012 transit.

In 2065 Venus will transit Jupiter and again in 2123. The last time this happened was in 1818.

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Eugene, good to hear that you have done some research and have your own opinions on what is going to happen socially, politically and astronomically in the time coming to, over, and after 2012.

I have personally chosen to take up a position of not knowing as I believe knowing to be a process that starts to decay when you say I known! I have made many new friends through the discussions I have had on this thread and have gained many new insights from the wide and diverse way this question has been perceived.

Most people that I have spoken to date have had an enquiring mind and a positive attitude to life and where not into the group think mentality of the herd. This is most refreshing as most of my time spent during the working day is with people that struggle to go beyond talking about the weather and what has happened on the latest soaps!

I could have chosen to say ‘so what’ when they spoke to me about a character on East Enders (TV SOAP) having and affair, in a way like they where talking about a real person in a real life situation, but I chose to be sociable and accept and respect that this is the way that they perceive the world to be and this is what they perceive to be living.

Reading through the diversity of this thread you may have noticed it’s not only about 2012 and Armageddon. There are many other social, spiritual, political, astronomical etc subjects discussed. Plus some very deep spiritual questions asked about what is life all about. I confess I can not supply the answers and that’s why I am here, to learn and also have fun learning! Some people feel the need to think for them selves and ask questions and others appear to just want to switch off, watch soaps and allow others to do the thinking for them and each to their own is what I would say!

Eric Bern developed a model called Transactional Analysis and in that model he mentions about three ego states, Parent, Child and Adult. A parental reply to someone’s questions is mostly in an authoritative manner and a Child’s reply is mostly in a dismissive manner that is not related to the subject matter. An adult reply would be more focussed and well thought out and without need to be dictating or telling others what to think or do, or to impress others with rebellious two word replies.

Going by your picture and the words used in your reply I would guess that you are around nine or ten years old and may I say you have a good thinking head on your shoulders for a child. I have two daughters and both of them where not interested in these kind of discussion at that age. Keep reading and keep participating! It’s good to have a younger person’s perspective on the thread.

Best intentions to you and all

Steve

[liz]

Hi Eugene,

You seem pretty sure about yourself and "that there isn't a problem".

Congratulations for living in the NOW!

Regards,
Lisbeth

[Judy Lapointe]

I believe the importance of this 2012 fear is the fact that it is forcing us to pay attention, forcing us to see the bigger picture of what we want our world to look like. There is something about to happen and the truth is we don't know what that something is. Maybe that something is a transition that transforms the planet into something just as positive as the negative possibility. Our intentions will create what ever desires we wish to experience.

Judy an opinion