Has anybody given any thought about 2012 apocalypse?

[Steven Burnand]

We are coming up to a unique planetary alignment in 2012 and our sun will also be in its solar centre. There are many videos on YouTube about this subject matter and planet x! There are also social and political changes taking place and rumour of a New World Order fascist state. Is there substance in these rumours?

Many paint a very bleak picture, with little hope and some are taking positive action on a social side. Please look for your self, to confirm what's mentioned above and reply below.

Zeitgeist: Addendum

Could 'one' of the universal laws called 'Intention' be used to change such large scale events?
Are there any people already contemplating or working on such a projects?

Are there any people working on alternative social systems and systems of exchange and barter?

If so please leave some feedback on this thread so others can link up.

This all sounds a bit odd, however if a modicum of what is being reported on Youtube and elsewhere comes true we are in for some very difficult times ahead and we only have 4 years left to formulate a solution!

Feedback and creative ideas from non academics and academics is valued!

For a broader perspective on 2012 and the New World Order that is beyond the scope of this thread please go to -

http://2012armageddonnwo.ning.com/

This site offers a vast video library and much more on this subject matter.

Sending best wishes to all…Steve

[Steven Burnand]

HI Lynn, maybe you are on subject but do not realise it? The mind is a pattern making and pattern using system ‘Edward De Bono’ Mechanisms of the mind – a recommended read on any AI course. I expanded on this further and said that the universe is a pattern making pattern using system, going along with the fractal universe theories.

So here is my dilemma and everybody else’s dilemma, how is it possible to know if the patterns you perceive are being made to fit a template that you have created or one that the universe/natures has created? One of my solutions to this is to through my ideas out for questioning and see what feed back I get or to do some relate research by reading the notes left by others that have made similar journeys.

In the case of the music, a large amount of music is set either to 60 beats per minute and 72 beats per minute and more often than not the lyrics follow the tempo of the song! When you and I listen to music, our bodies sync into the rhythm of the music.

60 beats a minute is great for relaxation as it’s a relaxed heart beat, 72 beats per minute often used by pop music as it gets your mind agitated and your body on the move. The need to dance is the need to express the patterns being perceived by the senses. It’s a sort of pattern in pattern out system! :o)

So my proposals for the Yin Yang symbol being a 2D representation of the galactic plain have come from many years of research into perception and patterns formed by us and by nature. As far as I am aware our sun goes through the plain every 26,000 years and follows a wave type pattern in space! It’s interesting that it emits the same kinds of pattern to the path it follows?

I will try what you say about those two tracks with Pinnacle Studio Plus! Perhaps that would make a good You Tube video?

Any way, if you have the time, have another look through my last few replies and give me some feedback!

Why are people so afraid to stray a little off from the norm and make some suggestion like I have done? I would guess that it’s a fear of appearing foolish if proved wrong! Well I do not mind being proved wrong as I believe that mistakes are an import part of the process of exploring the unknown.

May be I am just another fool sitting on a hill and watching, but I am sharing and I do believe sharing and caring are positive ways forward and help in the process of unravelling life’s many mysteries.

Best Intentions to you and all Steve

[Judy Lapointe]

isn't it an amazing fear that generates such a powerful conversation. How can this fear not force us into a much better world. That is the purpose of the fear we are creating. It's a good thing and we can create the future to be what ever we want to experience.

Love it
Judy

[Zen Benefiel]

How about a nice little shift... What does Apocalypse really mean?

Let's look at the focal point of the word..... 'a revelation.' So, it appears that once again man has been able to take a innocent word and turn it into a fearful thread. Imagine .... a world without fear. Engage... the choice to live it.

Namaste,
Zen

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Zen just had one of those eureka moments this morning. The Taoist YIN YANG diagram is a model of the galactic plain! My friend constructed a three dimensional model of this symbol a number of years back and the hole in the centre of each part of the symbol leads through to tail on the other side.

We are just about to travel, or are already travelling once again through the hole in the centre of yang, called extreme yang! The light is not visible on the other side of the Yin Yang symbol at this point as it literally folds in space as you travel through the galactic plain or Yin Yang symbol from the models perspective.

It’s much like a mobius strip and if you can imagine we are on the outer surface, we are now travelling through to the inner surface. So both our inside and outside universes are turning metaphysically and physically inside out.

Some of us have been making the shift earlier than others although this does not make those in the lead more important. This is a left brain notion relating to those in the lead and right brain biased universe works on cooperation and not competition, so those in front have a job to that’s equally important to those behind!

I know understand why we have to halves to the brain! One half is for an intra-variant of the universe and the other is for the extra-variant of the universe. Both halves are always in use, although one side remains the dominant side whilst on its relevant surface.

The journey through the galactic plain onto an inner surface will bias our thinking once again onto a right brain way of thinking. The extreme right side has no time, although I would guess that we will not get to that level of biasing as the left brain will still be there to compensate.

The ego state will appear to die and may even think that’s it’s about to die, so I can expect some upheaval on its external side based on hierarchies boundaries and parent figure like leaders. Ownership is also a left biased notion, so there is going to be a lot of letting go.

Perhaps the books ought to have read that man ego died on the galactic cross as we travelled through the galactic plain and then was reborn into something wonderful on the other side of the galactic plain. Metaphysical rebirth is a 110% possible! :o)

It’s interesting how the left side is presently compensating for this shift in bringing in its own version of what is really happening around us with a fake representation that’s still desperately trying to cling on to the old ways. The New World Order is based on a principle of a boundary less union yet the multitude are still being lead by an elite few by control and not choice.

Where as a true representation of the right biased model would be that will be that people lead themselves from within? They will rediscover there own personal navigational systems. There will be no need for parent figures although there will still be people working in groups, however they will work together on a cooperative bases and not a competitive bases. Each and everyone’s point of view will be of value.

The loopy idea of clock time going round and round in endless circles each day will cease and a more dynamic approach to life will be taken and we will once again begin to follow the natural rhythms of nature.

Its odd that for most of my life I have felt that I have been living in a upside down, back to front and inside out world and have not understood these feeling, but have spoken to many others with the same points of view. I am know beginning to understand that there are two surfaces and as we travel from one to the other more and more people will see the old left brain biased society from this point of view.

Perplexed, bewildered and truly amazed!

Steve

PS: as the right side works with connectivity so it’s important to map these connections through mapping their directions in space. So a ‘point’ of view is important as well as a sense on direction. The Taoist way is an Easte

[michael]

Eureka moment indeed! After reading your post I now feel like "of course", like I always knew it. I really can't look at the yin/yang as I used to either :)

Thanks Steve <3

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Michael, could it be that whoever created this symbol understood the universal processes and whoever wrote the Tao Te Ching understood about perceiving and acting within a right brain biased world/society. Maybe the wisdom behind the Yin Yang symbol and the Tao Te Ching literature is much older than what the history books tell us? Perhaps these are remnants from the last great cycle through the upper Yin plain?

May be its 26,000 years between extreme Yin and Yang? Now that would make sense. I also go along with idea of creation being made up of fractals and would guess that we too are designed to work on two surfaces. This is a very crude analogy but if the surfaces are thought of as dimensions, it starts to make sense.

Did you see that video clip on this thread where the neurologist had a left hemisphere brain seizure? As the left side shut down she lost all sense of time and the boundaries between her body and its environment became fuzzy!

The inner qualities of our mind seems to apply to the planet that we live in that the Eastern culture has been, up to more resent times of extreme yang, a more yin biased culture. They even write on a plain that is orthogonal to western hand writing.

I would guess that if our world was in balance the hemispheres of the planet would reflect hemispheres of our mind as our inner qualities appear to be inherited from the outer qualities or is that the other way around?

I have seen some illustrations of the spiralling disk with a counter clock wise energy spiral underneath and a clockwise energy spiral above, so that on both plains the energy created is spinning contra. There are also two very ancient symbols for energy flow. The right side works with connectivity and convergence and this is the side we are travelling through to.

Could it be that the light mentioned on your video link is a special kind of light that will enlighten from within and awaken our dormant right hemisphere? Perhaps we do use more the brain than our scientist currently understand as when looked at from this perspective different parts of the brain could switch on and off as we all undertake our journey along a path that takes us above and below the galactic plain? Maybe the ages have patterns to them and we all synchronise into the patterns and not as the ego believes create the patterns?

Fascinating subject to explore….Steve

[michael]

Hi Steve,

Actually I've missed that brain seizure video (it's such long topic..) but I would love to watch it. Any chance to get that link here or if you can tell me which page that was posted on?

About this light.. You know how 3D hologram is constructed by using splitted laser and mirror?

3D holographic image is an interference pattern made of one laser, splitted into two beams. The other beam goes through an object we want to capture, other is just reflected from a mirror and the interference pattern is then recorded on light sensitive film. After the holographic film has been recorded, we can get 3D image of it when lighting it up with laser.

Take a look at this diagram: http://www.mikecrowson.co.uk/Hologram.gif

Now replace the laser with our sun. Then replace the mirror with the man (man was created as gods image, maybe we're mirrors). And think the object as gods imagination of the creation. Perhaps beam splitter represents the duality, yin/yang etc.

I don't really know how to put this in words, as I understand it, but basically it would be possible that this 3D world we're experiencing is an interference pattern made up from light of god and how we reflect that. This would explain how we're all one, since we all reflecting the same light. And as we know we've light source in every cell.. So maybe this 3D hologram is being captured and projected in 25frames/second or something and on every cycle it tries to change it according to our thinking (how we reflect the light)?

Holographic film can be cut into pieces and every piece always has the entire image. But if there are LOT of pieces then the image gets blurred. So if we're all little pieces from the same holographic image and there are so many of us, that could explain why/how we've our own points of views on things. It also means that while earth population grows, our viewpoint gets more and more blurry.. unless we really focus on the light source and try to reflect that as good as we can.

When the mirror is broken, the holographic image is lost. So when we die our light actually goes out and it returns to the source (sun). That tunnel with light could be our soul flying towards to sun? That would look like a tunnel, right?

When we close our eyes and meditate, perhaps after awhile our body thinks we're sleeping, because: we're relaxed, ignoring body sensory signals, taking deep breaths etc. Maybe then our inner light is turned on (pineal gland?) and we're able to construct our own internal hologram using interference pattern from our inner light and our imagination? If we do this while being completely passive, then we'll just see some dreams generated by our subconsciousness. And maybe we're able to connect with the light source and get any information it has?

So from this perspective all material and consciousness can fundamentally change when the frequency of light changes. Perhaps earth changes are also needed because amount of population have to be cut down, so that those who survive are able to get sharper picture of the "reality" in order to understand our true nature. Or perhaps higher frequency of light means that manifestation will get faster and people who live in fears will not survive only because their fear will materialise into their lives?

But there are still lot of missing pieces from this puzzle, so please don't take this very seriously, it's just a little idea I got few months ago while walking my dogs :)

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Michael, light certainly plays a bigger part than is currently understood. Have you read any of Charles Saunders Pierce’s work?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Peirce

His model works on firstness, secondness and thirdness. The interesting part about his model is that seconess contains all of the qualities of firstness as well as its own qualities and thirdness contains all of the qualities of firstness and secondness. In my friends work that I published and illustrated for him back in the late eighties/early nineties he gave qualities to each of these interconnected generic layers. Firstness related to absorption, secondness related reciprocation and thirdness real to imaginary.

He went onto to explain a fourthness as condensation as nature and the universe appears to be constantly refining itself to more and more efficient methods of energy transfer. This can be looked at philosophically as our senses absorb what outside and convert waves into reciprocal pulses, these pulses are then converted into something that contains both the wave and the particle, but separate and above generically. This thirdness part is what your model calls interference. As the process is cyclic if attention is held further information is taken in and the inner formation is refined.

Put this into a physical action and it’s more apparent. As the senses guide our limbs, repetitive actions are refined. The odd thing is the animation part you where speaking about. When I was teaching practical skills I found out that to cerate a fluid movement it was important to teach the movement in stages and slit the movement into parts. The Taoist saying is to seek the opposite. So the universe does appear to either particle or wave depending on the frequency you are resonating at. This is how Stanley Mayer split water into Oxygen and Hydrogen as the bond between them just fell apart at a certain frequency.

It’s fascinating as you say, in just how we do perceive a three dimensional image of the world. There are many perceptual illusions that give some clues as to how this construct is being perceived.

I have given it some thought like your self in that what we all perceive to be outside is effected by or even entirely created by our collective consciousness. Perhaps like Pierce’s model this higher interconnected generic layer that contains all of the qualities of the lower parts, so it would reflect them as you say, in an ‘as above so below’ model and also have some qualities of its own. Maybe these qualities are what we perceive to mater?

The sun being the source of life and well of souls fits in with certain Eastern beliefs in that when you die you return to a collective pool of souls and you are indeed reunited with friends and relatives as they too are part of this collective whole. Then when reincarnation takes place you are once again separated from the collective. So this is continual change from particle back to wave and then back to particle. Understanding that it’s a lot easier to believe in reincarnation as the duality of particle wave is all around us.

It’s interesting that the idea of a valve came to mind when thinking about your model, in that there is a heater in the valve to excite the electrons and an anode and cathode grids.

Understanding flow seem paramount to any reasonable level of understanding when studying and building dynamic and life like models of reality like the one that you have discussed. My friends work was based on bi-directional vectors that formed pictures of equations. As the vectors had a directional element to them it was possible to map the energies path and create an animated representation of what would have otherwise been a lifeless equation illustrated by a few lifeless hieroglyphs.

A point of view has a direction in space. So to create and manifest the BIG picture it would necessary to have many points of view. So a more conscious collective would value multiple points of view and see them of value.

Could this be why education has been vigorously deterring the multitude from having their own points of view that are seen to be of value? By training people to be in-divide-alls they are effectively putting the collective mind to sleep by denying it the quality of the information needed to become more conscious of its self and become more awake.

I will stop here as I could write pages and pages on this subject and will totally bamboozle myself and everyone else in the process. :o)

Thanks for sharing such deep thoughts. I will read over your work a few more times and see what transpires in time.

Best intentions to you and all

Steve

[Zen Benefiel]

I'd look a little closer to home for the Yin/Yang connection, too. I think I said something about it in this thread already; a cross-section of DNA from a 'light on' and 'light off' perspective. I'm sure if we really looked, we could find many more imagineerings from the mind of God... Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Seems we both go for Eastern rather than Western.

[Judy Lapointe]

I just watched this documentary last night, floored me. I think this is very important for people to watch.

I'm on this trip of keeping perfect focus of my own personal intentions on a daily basis. Anything related to planet X appears to be giving the advice for us all to see the value in our own focus. It's so easy to be thrown off our tracks by negative experiences or shock and disbelief. I believe ultimately the NEED to know about our focus and intentions will expand us all into a shift that creates A New Earth.

Just a girls opinion.....
Judy

[Judy Lapointe]

the link didn't show up hmmmmmmmm http://www.megavideo.com/?v=G5PC24SC

[Judy Lapointe]

opps again this is the more recent film I just watch, both are good but this one is pretty interesting http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=1070329053600562261