Has anybody given any thought about 2012 apocalypse?

[Steven Burnand]

We are coming up to a unique planetary alignment in 2012 and our sun will also be in its solar centre. There are many videos on YouTube about this subject matter and planet x! There are also social and political changes taking place and rumour of a New World Order fascist state. Is there substance in these rumours?

Many paint a very bleak picture, with little hope and some are taking positive action on a social side. Please look for your self, to confirm what's mentioned above and reply below.

Zeitgeist: Addendum

Could 'one' of the universal laws called 'Intention' be used to change such large scale events?
Are there any people already contemplating or working on such a projects?

Are there any people working on alternative social systems and systems of exchange and barter?

If so please leave some feedback on this thread so others can link up.

This all sounds a bit odd, however if a modicum of what is being reported on Youtube and elsewhere comes true we are in for some very difficult times ahead and we only have 4 years left to formulate a solution!

Feedback and creative ideas from non academics and academics is valued!

For a broader perspective on 2012 and the New World Order that is beyond the scope of this thread please go to -

http://2012armageddonnwo.ning.com/

This site offers a vast video library and much more on this subject matter.

Sending best wishes to all…Steve

[Erik Blazynski]

There is nothing that you can do to change any planetary alignment or anything like that. Just as you can not change gravity on earth. You can sit atop the Empire State Building intending to hover out over the edge. But no matter what you do you can not change the laws the govern gravity. Once you step out over the edge you plummet to earth.

Humans have created these dooms day theories since the beginning of time. What are the Mayans basing their prediction on? No one knows. What science shown that there will be this increased gravitational pull and that it will be significant enough to bring an end to the earth? On youtube I see a bunch of videos about the prophecy but no evidence that this is based on anything real. Can you post a link to the videos that show REAL SCIENTIFIC evidence?

Thanks
Erik

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Erik, here are a few links....

The History channel – Watch all parts!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6wI3Pbolbw

Maximum Sun activity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZIfyXc8RWk

Jay Weidner is an author and filmmaker - Evidence indicates that the Denver International Airport sits on top of a huge underground facility, with trains that connect to shelters in the mountains and possibly as far away as New Mexico, he stated. Government building an under ground shelters for a small minority?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IV5e44iaCU

Watch all parts!

The people involved in these films are scientist and academics! There IS something going on?

[Zen Benefiel]

I am aware of facilities in the US, with pagers given to those who are the 'chosen' to be part of the population included. These are top officials, technology specialists, etc. This was done as a precautionary component to the survival of society - needed to rebuild in a time of catastrophic events.

[Zen Benefiel]

Lisbeth,

You are quite the player in this sandbox, eh? Adoption allowed me to experience many things, from unconditional love of parents to the intense separation felt as I opened to internal worlds. I've grown to accept...

The pleasure in facilitating change in myself and others comes in accepting that we are all the same inside, some of us just understand 'volunteerism' a little better. Risk and reward are intrinsically symbiotic and although appearing the fool is oft' the wise, the freedom in BEing IS living in love.

Sh... happens: Supra Human Intelligent Thought.

Zen

[George Le Poi]

Erik,
I support you view about the Laws of Gravity but in a world of duality and opposites it begs the question..
"What if we learnt something about the Laws of Levity.' Viktor Shauerberger invented something during WW2 that seemed to ignore the laws of gravity, perhaps it's a branch of science we yet to come to grips with?
Shauerberger believed in the principle of Implosion as a desirable way to obtain energy, rather than explosion and successfully demonstrated that principle.
He did some really remarkable things that will, no doubt. in the future, be recognised as some laureat's world changing discovery.
In defence of the Mayans, unscientific as they may be, we actually went back to believing the earth was flat after their civilisation and Galileo was severely prosecuted by the Scientists of his day for suggesting otherwise.
We have no further information about the Mayans because the learned Men who discovered their culture destroyed the information? Is that Real Science?
In an ever changing world
George

[AnnieInfinite]

http://www.americanantigravity.com/articles/112/1/Hutchison-Effect-...

Speaking of gravity and levity, I thought it might be useful to post this link?

Might throw a small spanner in the works, if this video is anything to go by, perhaps gravity is about to be en-light-ened? Talk about lighting up...

blessings Annie

[Chris Marflake]

I'm a little freaked out by the 2012 thing too, but I'm not going to build a bunker or anything. Some of these reply's have brought me back to my more sensible side as well. We also have so many more tangible things going on on Earth at this moment that we can direct our consciousness toward. And even if it did happen, there's nothing to fear, it would just be in the over all plan then anyway and we move into a higher consciousness...The thing that got me thinking about this 2012 thing though is the fact that the Mayans were able to predict a specific astronomical alignment over 2000 years ago. It amazes me that they were able to make these calculations.

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Saffronasha, yes the thought did occur to me about many people thinking negative about this event and materializing it! However, the event may well have some devastating consequence for life on the planet. So only trying to be prepared as much as I can be! If the Jay Weidner video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IV5e44iaCU is right, the US government are certainly preparing for some sort of disaster.
There is also reports of ancient tunnel systems that where man made, being found that may well have left over from last time around?
Yes string theory is interesting as shows us all connected to the universe! Yes I agree the many worlds theory is also highly probable. I published a book for a friend many years ago that clearly showed other dimensions could exist!

[Bill Schuh]

Wonderful! I'm going to say we're in the probability that avoided Armageddon!

[Steven Burnand]

Thanks Bill for lightening this up a little! :o) Be it so, could there be a choice, through intention? If there is count me in!

[Bill Schuh]

"Which World? Which You?" is a chapter in one of the Seth books. "The Nature of Personal Reality", I think. It speaks to the "Many-Worlds" interpretation of quantum physics espoused by physicists such as Everett and DeWitt.
I'm not sure that it's a matter of making a conscious intention. It may be more along the line of personal beliefs forming the probable world that you inhabit.

[Elizabeth]

Is Drastic Change bad or do we just assign negative thoughts and emotions to it and thereby color other people's perspective of it?

Just as if someone were to lose their job suddenly... they can spiral down in to despair thinking their world has ended OR they can see it as an opportunity to Grow, Change, Expand, Learn.

What is armageddon but dramatic changes that no longer ask but definitively REQUIRE you to either embrace the change... or fall by the wayside?

It is our perspective that needs revamping, adjusting...etc, not the universe.

:)

Blessings.
Elizabeth