Has anybody given any thought about 2012 apocalypse?

[Steven Burnand]

We are coming up to a unique planetary alignment in 2012 and our sun will also be in its solar centre. There are many videos on YouTube about this subject matter and planet x! There are also social and political changes taking place and rumour of a New World Order fascist state. Is there substance in these rumours?

Many paint a very bleak picture, with little hope and some are taking positive action on a social side. Please look for your self, to confirm what's mentioned above and reply below.

Zeitgeist: Addendum

Could 'one' of the universal laws called 'Intention' be used to change such large scale events?
Are there any people already contemplating or working on such a projects?

Are there any people working on alternative social systems and systems of exchange and barter?

If so please leave some feedback on this thread so others can link up.

This all sounds a bit odd, however if a modicum of what is being reported on Youtube and elsewhere comes true we are in for some very difficult times ahead and we only have 4 years left to formulate a solution!

Feedback and creative ideas from non academics and academics is valued!

For a broader perspective on 2012 and the New World Order that is beyond the scope of this thread please go to -

http://2012armageddonnwo.ning.com/

This site offers a vast video library and much more on this subject matter.

Sending best wishes to all…Steve

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Srini, I have just read your reply to Chaitanya and I agree that enslavement of the mind is far more effective and covert than enslavement of the body.

After all the root of the word govern-ment is govern-mind. Those that rule the masses have used education with this purpose ‘in mind’ for eons.

The tools/skills that lead to inner freedom that in turn leads to outer freedom have been kept secret by the mystery schools and a like for thousands of years.

Educating people that there is scare-city and the need to compete is a great way to get the masses to police themselves. Ridicule of anything that is perceived to out of what has become the indoctrinated norm is openly encouraged!

I have work colleagues that call everything that’s not from the main stream media and tabloids, a conspiracy theory!

911 shows the grand scale in which the public can be lead away from not asking questions, even when what is happening in front of there very eyes is not tallying up with what the reporter is telling them.

How lost in the play have we all become?

I do believe that its possible to not only change the script, but to walk off stage and sit in the audience and realise that’s its all a construct and being so can be fashioned into working for the good of the whole and not only for selfish the rewards of the few.

I agree with what you say about taking conscious actions and being aware of how your own actions will affect others in their daily lives. The road is a good reflection on people’s attitudes and tolerances of others. Yes and those that are aware do synchronise with their environment when ever possible and go with the flow.

I do believe that nature has fail safes built in and reveals it’s self only when the right combinations are found. It seems that the better we understand and work with this universal force the more rewarding (in the spiritual sense) the outcomes can be.

Namaste
Steve

[JohnM]

Steven, Chaitanya, Srini and the many others, the world has endured and learned from an all too common repeating cycle. The repeating cycle is experienced as (1) a threat to survival, (2) unification to meet the threat, (3) a period of locally unified prosperity, (4) divisiveness as the prosperity becomes unbalanced, (5) new threats, followed by (6) an eventual reunification and (7) arrival at a new period of balance. There have been differences in each cycle. It seems that through these historical repetitions the world has achieved unprecedented powers of construction, destruction and interactive communication. We are now attempting to balance these powers with a spiritual priority that is aimed at eliminating unbalance itself. It is a noble task and a new very significant difference in its scope. Pockets of such spirit have occurred repeatedly in history but I think they are in stronger evidence now than ever before. It is the level of unification that is new and it is strongly sensed prior to materialization. It seems that we are looking to 2012 with both a reasonable sense of exuberance and of dread. I am sure there will be ups and downs but I think it is most probable that we will pass through 2012 not collectively noticing the changes until we look back. JohnM

[bedroomeyes807]

Wow, what a wonderful and insightful view of this sometimes crazy and very scary world and human existence. Very deep!

[Richard Curtis]

Yes, bedroomeyes807, "Very deep!!"
Deeper than deep space. To provide the best world we can devise for ourselves and all things.
Why are we going there, and what will we be doing when we get there? Your thoughts on this are very much needed. RSVP. Thank you.

Richard Curtis
Wolf Dog/God Flow

[Chaitanya]

yes i agree with you john. i really do hope that this time we will move towards a place of unity with ethics and actions rather than the old unification to meet the threat.

since i have been back in melbourne, integrating a year of working with high energies in india i have met many people who are sensitive to energies and the changes in our universe. they all express that things are "heating up" though not in a bad way, in a way that encourages great change. i have seen many of my new friends moving with great speed through the old things that no longer in harmony with their truest path, doing really good things for themselves. i have also watched as others deny the "dark" parts of themselves, projecting their unresolved issues out onto the world around them...not such a great outcome to their friends and colleagues which have to put up with it, but i feel that with this shift occurring their issues will keep coming up for resolution and hopefully they'll face it next time it comes up!

In response to the lovely Srini the bus driver. thanks for driving a bus! having a happy bus driver always brightens up my day, you must be having a widespread effect all over your city! yee-haw! and yes, i hadn't thought about it recently so thanks for reminding me that the smallest action such as jogging across the road to maintain the harmony in the traffic does really help in the bigger scheme of things. i would just love as many people as possible to awaken from their slumber and live increasingly fulfilling lives...

how will this happen? well i think its already starting, things are changing everwhere i look. i have just recenly got involved in an ethical business. after feeling disharmonious about humans enslaving animals and agriculture i have come across an opportunity which is reversing this and making money! th product has been helping people get more healthy and earn money too. this may be what john reffered to as unification to meet the threat (threat being ill health caused by society's crap they serve us up as food and water etc) but it is a very positive thing to meet people who's lives have been bettered by consuming wholefood medicine, their eyes opened to the healing power of fruits, their concience alleviated by being involved in a buisness which works WITH nature WITH its workers and GIVES BACK to nature and GIVES BACK to its workers. I think this is the way forward at this stage. enlightened business options. things that make people feel good about what they do with thier time and where the get their money from.

Sure it would be great if we didnt have to deal with money and we could all eat organics and be happy but look at the cultures we live in. Now look at nature. Nature always builds on what its got, makes it better and better. We've got a civilization that's mad about consumption. CONSUMERISM becomes CONSHUMANISM ethical business is the key. comapnies are getting on board beacuse its popular. they'll soon change their tune i hope. they'll realise that its TRUE...

Perhaps I've raved on for just long enough.
Thank you all for your kind words. It is a pleasure to exchange ideas with you all. Chaitanya xo
If anyone wants to talk business with me its an American company im involved with. email me [e-mail]

[Judi]

Always remember, my friend ... what you focus on ... EXPANDS! Be careful about what you expand. Love, Judi.

[Steven Burnand]

Thanks Judy, I was feeling a bit down in the dumps yesterday, so focusing on the negative side too much! You are right we do assist the universe in manifestation. The road home to unity can feel like its never ending, sometimes! On the whole, despite the subject of this blog, I have a positive outlook; however I do feel that the negative also needs to be looked at in an objective way!

Om Shanti
Steve

[GRAY_NEPHILIM]

[Lynn Marlowe]

Another beautiful painting (I saw the next one first). Out on a limb I'm thinking it's sunset because of the dark sky and red and purple but haven't traveled the world to see all sunrises and sunsets. Looking thru the windows focusing on the sun (the bottom almost shaped like an arrow) seeing the beauty and why our ancestors worshipped it. I just am grateful for it myself. Are they ruins? It's either hiloglyphics(sp) or grass growing on the floor wondering if a home or ruins.

[GRAY_NEPHILIM]

It's from a CD ROOM titled something like 'Wizards Witches an Warriors'

[GRAY_NEPHILIM]

[Lynn Marlowe]

In this painting it seems that the young man could be having a nightmare, an asthma attack or heart problems or being infused with the strength of a panther. Then there could be the different lives he has lived that might pertain to what he is concerned with now or will be in the future. There could also be a lot of stress concerning everything going on globally and his subconscious is getting rid of some of that stress or fears. He could have done something he felt was not right during the day and the subconscious is telling him so making it look worse than what it actually is. He could've eaten something which disturbed his physical body before retiring. What does each symbol mean to the dreamer? I like the painting.